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Thank you
by Meer Bezoekers - Mar 24th 2008 11:48:25
It works great.
I am finally able to view my raw avi video files. I use these files when
video editing.
Thanks!
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Ease Of Use
by Snooks - Dec 1st 2007 16:01:53
I think the important thing will be to ensure ease of use for people like
me, that have limited knowledge and skills, but want efficiency. I think it
looks marvellous but i dont have the skill or knowledge to truly judge, or
appreciate it from a technical aspect.
Hopefully it will prove simple for the average person.
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mplayer is ok
by Rob - Nov 23rd 2007 08:43:31
I like mplayer and use it to play almost anything except live streams.
Still using winamp for that. If there is a way to get my live streams in
mplayer that would be great.
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nice one:)
by phiro - Oct 7th 2007 05:06:00
MPlayer is a nice one, but i like vlc a little bit more ;)
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Great Player!
by Kevin - Aug 1st 2007 14:26:54
This is now my new player haha. Awesome work!
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Nice one
by gecko99 - Mar 24th 2007 03:54:57
MPlayer is one of the best player i've ever used. Good work - Thanks for
this!
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More than ordinary player
by D-Man - Dec 18th 2006 06:50:19
It's not like other common players, it's well coded.
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Great job!
by Marcus Moll - Dec 29th 2005 14:11:24
Couldn't imagine to use something else!
Keep on
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Awesome!
by 123 SEO Tools - Jan 1st 2006 23:21:17
Keep like this guys !
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Re: Great job!
by Philippe F. - Aug 9th 2006 11:45:09
^^^^ true!
Way better than VLC.
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Excellent
by FootballJunkie - Aug 22nd 2006 09:21:07
I had a video sent from a client and nothing would open it - including VLC.
This worked like a charm.
Thanks.
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Need codec?
by Melvin - Nov 29th 2005 01:31:39
MPlayer seems cool all right, but I coulnd't play DivX movies... Anyone
knows if I need an extra codec or something?
Mel.
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MPlayer = Video iPod Saver
by Streethound - Nov 19th 2005 10:03:50
Thanks Alex, my video iPod is full thanks to you
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Great job and a question
by The_JL - Oct 20th 2005 08:15:32
Alex, great job on MPlayer. Any interest in supporting some kind of DVD
carousel control via RS232 or something?
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Re: Great job and a question
by Jason - Nov 1st 2005 11:02:38
That would be aweseome. I hate to say it, but I have been thinking about
going M$ Home Media Center Edition. They just announced suppord for a 200
DVD carousel. That would be a great addition to MPlayer.
> Alex, great job on MPlayer. Any interest
> in supporting some kind of DVD carousel
> control via RS232 or something?
--
:Jason:
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MPlayer
by Philippe F. - Sep 28th 2005 15:03:28
This is one of the best player i've tried. Good work. Continue.
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Philippe
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Re: MPlayer
by SaikoDadII - May 24th 2007 01:01:35
> This is one of the best player i've
> tried. Good work. Continue.
It's not one of the best, it IS the best ;-)
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mplayer playlist
by konjuit - Sep 20th 2005 01:06:25
mplayer seems to support everything and plays great, but the playlist in
the gui is pretty clunky. be great if someone could incorporate a rythmbox
xml database style playlist into mplayer, makes it easy to load files and
urls. maybe someone could hack in the rhythmbox playlist itself as a
plugin? or would it break the the cross platform thing?
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mplayer
by tednor - Sep 16th 2005 23:18:50
mplayer is the bomb! nuff said.
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playlist
by tanu - Jul 20th 2005 01:08:58
hi,
i am using the latest version of mplayer i find the playlist dosen't
have drag n drop feature from kde . this makes it really bad for someone
used to playing audio in winamp , each time going thru the add file
process, and is there any way to have an enque right click option.
cheers,
tanu
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Awesome
by Brad - Apr 2nd 2005 15:36:21
Finally found a media player that will play virtually any file format. For
OSX there aren't too many options besides vlc and mplayer. Keep up the good
work =)
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[install] Error 127
by HuinchaMaN - Aug 25th 2004 16:29:32
In make install
ln -sf libdha.so.1.0 /usr/local/lib/libdha.so.1
ldconfig
make[1]: ldconfig: Command not found
make[1]: *** [install] Error 127
I need help :)
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Re: [install] Error 127
by Veerakumar - May 19th 2005 00:13:37
> In make install
>
> ln -sf libdha.so.1.0
> /usr/local/lib/libdha.so.1
> ldconfig
> make[1]: ldconfig: Command not found
> make[1]: *** [install] Error 127
>
> I need help :)
>
Mplayer didn't find ldconfig in path. run ldconfig manually
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Re: [install] Error 127
by Tom - Dec 20th 2006 10:31:52
Your environmental variable is not set. First set the env where your
ldconfig is located, then compile it.
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Mplayer is fantastic
by althepcman - Jul 28th 2004 18:17:46
Mplayer is fantastic, keep it up mplayer developers this project is a great
project, I supports all the codec I need.
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Mplayer works great!
by accura2k - Oct 25th 2003 10:07:19
My install of mplayer included many additional win32 codecs. I've been
able to play all my divx video and alot of streaming asf formats. All my
files play correctly with audo/video in sync. gmplayer is an excellent gui
too, easy to get used to. Great job!
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Re: Mplayer works great!
by biettuot - Jan 23rd 2004 09:35:21
> My install of mplayer included many
> additional win32 codecs. I've been able
> to play all my divx video and alot of
> streaming asf formats. All my files
> play correctly with audo/video in sync.
> gmplayer is an excellent gui too, easy
> to get used to. Great job!
hello there, I'm a newbie in linux, when i tried to install Mplayer, I've
encoutered this prob
Error: the GUI requires GTK (which was not found)
Could you show me how could I do ? Thanks
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Re: Mplayer works great!
by MrSpiff - Jul 8th 2004 08:39:27
>
> % My install of mplayer included many
> % additional win32 codecs. I've been
> able
> % to play all my divx video and alot of
> % streaming asf formats. All my files
> % play correctly with audo/video in
> sync.
> % gmplayer is an excellent gui too,
> easy
> % to get used to. Great job!
>
>
> hello there, I'm a newbie in linux, when
> i tried to install Mplayer, I've
> encoutered this prob
>
> Error: the GUI requires GTK (which was
> not found)
>
> Could you show me how could I do ?
> Thanks
>
>
you need to install the GTK (Gimp Toolkit) which is a graphical toolkit
that mplayer requires to run. You can find it here: http://www.gtk.org/
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Re: Mplayer works great!
by Veerakumar - May 19th 2005 00:47:41
>
> % My install of mplayer included many
> % additional win32 codecs. I've been
> able
> % to play all my divx video and alot of
> % streaming asf formats. All my files
> % play correctly with audo/video in
> sync.
> % gmplayer is an excellent gui too,
> easy
> % to get used to. Great job!
>
>
> hello there, I'm a newbie in linux, when
> i tried to install Mplayer, I've
> encoutered this prob
>
> Error: the GUI requires GTK (which was
> not found)
>
> Could you show me how could I do ?
> Thanks
>
>
install gtk-devel package.
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Great player
by Slicer - Sep 30th 2003 18:26:18
MPlayer is a great media player. While the install was a little rocky, over
all it covers all of my needs. One question though:
I noticed that the shared memory the player uses has a permission set of
777. Is this safe? Wouldn't 755 be sufficient?
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Re: Great player
by Laza! - Jun 5th 2007 22:40:23
> MPlayer is a great media player. While
> the install was a little rocky, over all
> it covers all of my needs. One question
> though:
> I noticed that the shared memory the
> player uses has a permission set of 777.
> Is this safe? Wouldn't 755 be
> sufficient?
>
This player frickin rocks. Microsoft can kiss my ass! Thanks for postin
this puppy~
Green Laser Pointer
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A great player.
by Slicer - Sep 3rd 2003 17:13:28
MPlayer is a great media player. A fantastic job was done by the
coders/testers and I am running mplayer on RedHat 9 with no problems.
However, the path to get it up and running was a little rough. There were
a number of dependancies to overcome, codecs to download and I had to step
around a lot of errors. I would like to suggest that a combination of more
documentation with links to common deps be posted. I've used Linux for a
while, and was used to this process, however, newbies might find this a
difficult player to install.
However, the work was worth it. I give mplayer a 10/10 for features and
ease-of-use and a 7/10 for installation.
Thank you for your wonderful product.
Jesse
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Re: A great player.
by Veerakumar - May 19th 2005 00:47:47
> MPlayer is a great media player. A
> fantastic job was done by the
> coders/testers and I am running mplayer
> on RedHat 9 with no problems.
>
> However, the path to get it up and
> running was a little rough. There were a
> number of dependancies to overcome,
> codecs to download and I had to step
> around a lot of errors. I would like to
> suggest that a combination of more
> documentation with links to common deps
> be posted. I've used Linux for a while,
> and was used to this process, however,
> newbies might find this a difficult
> player to install.
>
> However, the work was worth it. I give
> mplayer a 10/10 for features and
> ease-of-use and a 7/10 for
> installation.
>
> Thank you for your wonderful product.
> Jesse
Bad distribution. Check documentation of mplayer for recommended software
for building it.
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macos X, not to be disturbed by the screen saver
by Kalou - Mar 28th 2003 13:13:28
Hi,
I'm using MPlayer successfully on my Mac,
really much more optimised than Quicktime.
The only drawback I have is: When looking
at a film, the Mac doesn't notice that you're looking
something, and the screen dimmer is activated when you have not pressed a
key since much time,
and then, goes to sleep if nothing is done.
Quicktime does not have this drawback, so
I presume it's related to an event that should be
added in code to get the right behaviour.
Could someone point me in the right direction
to help doing a patch ?
Best Regards,
Olivier Kaloudoff
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Re: macos X, not to be disturbed by the screen saver
by Veerakumar - May 19th 2005 00:49:42
> Hi,
>
> I'm using MPlayer successfully on my
> Mac,
> really much more optimised than
> Quicktime.
>
> The only drawback I have is: When
> looking
> at a film, the Mac doesn't notice that
> you're looking
> something, and the screen dimmer is
> activated when you have not pressed a
> key since much time,
> and then, goes to sleep if nothing is
> done.
>
> Quicktime does not have this drawback,
> so
> I presume it's related to an event that
> should be
> added in code to get the right
> behaviour.
>
> Could someone point me in the right
> direction
> to help doing a patch ?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Olivier Kaloudoff
just remove the dimmer option.
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Debian
by anti - Jan 29th 2003 16:03:55
Hey,
do us all a favour and just stop arguing with the Debian guys.
I used Debian since Rex and MPlayer since 0.13.
MPlayer is so damn easy to install from source,
I wouldn't even consider installing a .deb.
I really love Debian and the ease of maintainance,
but if I'd have to choose, I'd decide for MPlayer.
Nobody gains anything from packaging MPlayer.
There is no other usable video-player.
(Not for any OS!!)
Just keep up the good work and stop arguing...
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Re: Debian
by Steve Killen - Feb 14th 2003 11:17:08
> I used Debian since Rex and MPlayer
> since 0.13.
> MPlayer is so damn easy to install from
> source,
> I wouldn't even consider installing a
> .deb.
It is pretty easy...unless you want GUI support, in which case you have to
hunt down the development libraries at each step in configure. Not a
serious problem, but certainly not the easiest.
> Nobody gains anything from packaging
> MPlayer.
> There is no other usable video-player.
> (Not for any OS!!)
mplayer doesn't have working dvd-nav support. ogle runs it right out of
the .deb. Heresy, maybe, but accurate.
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Re: Debian
by JeffJoker - Feb 19th 2003 17:14:47
>
> % I used Debian since Rex and MPlayer
> % since 0.13.
> % MPlayer is so damn easy to install
> from
> % source,
> % I wouldn't even consider installing a
> % .deb.
>
>
>
> It is pretty easy...unless you want GUI
> support, in which case you have to hunt
> down the development libraries at each
> step in configure. Not a serious
> problem, but certainly not the easiest.
-This is where I jump in !!
-I agree with you great player
-But where the hell do you find good help for the GUI
-I really have a hard time here
> % Nobody gains anything from packaging
> % MPlayer.
> % There is no other usable
> video-player.
> % (Not for any OS!!)
>
>
>
> mplayer doesn't have working dvd-nav
> support. ogle runs it right out of the
> .deb. Heresy, maybe, but accurate.
>
Thanks
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Re: Debian
by fishy - Jun 4th 2003 17:24:55
> Hey,
>
> do us all a favour and just stop arguing
> with the Debian guys.
>
> I used Debian since Rex and MPlayer
> since 0.13.
> MPlayer is so damn easy to install from
> source,
> I wouldn't even consider installing a
> .deb.
>
> I really love Debian and the ease of
> maintainance,
> but if I'd have to choose, I'd decide
> for MPlayer.
>
> Nobody gains anything from packaging
> MPlayer.
> There is no other usable video-player.
> (Not for any OS!!)
>
> Just keep up the good work and stop
> arguing...
>
Wow thats strange I really like the mplayer .deb, works fine for me.
If only I had time to install every app (that I like) from source...
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Mplayer error
by Geoff777 - Jan 2nd 2003 12:05:59
Compiled from source, looks great, however, whenever I
try to play any video file, even a simple mpeg, I get the
message ' Error opening/initializing the selected video_out
(-vo) device!' Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Re: Mplayer error
by ninaw de leon - Aug 11th 2004 21:13:18
> Compiled from source, looks great,
> however, whenever I
> try to play any video file, even a
> simple mpeg, I get the
> message ' Error opening/initializing the
> selected video_out
> (-vo) device!' Any suggestions? Thanks.
>
try another video output device then, e.g. gmplayer -vo xv or gmplayer -vo
gl
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mplayer gui problem
by wildcat - Dec 31st 2002 00:57:59
I am running suse 8.0 and I am trying to get mplayer to compile with the
gui interface. I ./configure --enable-gui and that comes back with no
errors. When I make the file however i get this error
/usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lgtk
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [mplayer] Error 1
As far as I know I have all the needed Libs and files in the right spot.
I am a newbie to Linux so maybe I am doing something wrong. Any Ideas
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Re: mplayer gui problem
by alffis - Mar 12th 2003 13:51:40
I got same error when typing "./config --enable-gui" My system is suse 8.1,
and and I've tried to install all packets of suse but it didn't help. The
command-line version of mplayer works but I want the bloody GUI! :/
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Re: mplayer gui problem
by Veerakumar - May 19th 2005 00:56:30
> I am running suse 8.0 and I am trying
> to get mplayer to compile with the gui
> interface. I ./configure --enable-gui
> and that comes back with no errors.
> When I make the file however i get this
> error
>
> /usr/i486-suse-linux/bin/ld: cannot find
> -lgtk
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make: *** [mplayer] Error 1
>
>
> As far as I know I have all the needed
> Libs and files in the right spot. I am
> a newbie to Linux so maybe I am doing
> something wrong. Any Ideas
You need gtk-devel package man.
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awesome
by Johan Nystrom - Dec 26th 2002 08:36:34
Mplayer is incredible. It can play almost anything on my
366 MHz G3 (that's ppc!). The feature list never ceases to amaze me;
who are you guys? Have you made all of this in your spare
time?
I realize that mplayer mostly is the engine that ties different
input and output drivers together (depending on e.g.
libavcodec and so on to decode things) but still, an huge
amount of work must be involved. I'm very grateful for it,
it makes linux a lot more useful.
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Re: awesome
by Willie - Apr 9th 2003 21:40:26
> Mplayer is incredible. It can play
> almost anything on my
> 366 MHz G3 (that's ppc!). The feature
> list never ceases to amaze me;
> who are you guys? Have you made all of
> this in your spare
> time?
> I realize that mplayer mostly is the
> engine that ties different
> input and output drivers together
> (depending on e.g.
> libavcodec and so on to decode things)
> but still, an huge
> amount of work must be involved. I'm
> very grateful for it,
> it makes linux a lot more useful.
>
What an excellent note. I couldn't have put it better. I have been wanting
to say something, but could not find the right words. So thanks for saying
it for me, and I suspect many others. Mplayer is a truely beautiful thing,
born of much hard work, for which I too am very grateful.
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Accessibility of the site
by Gilles Casse - Dec 1st 2002 08:45:46
Hi,
I appreciate that your site allows several ways to download your
softwares.
I appreciate it because I can see...
Let me please underlined three points which may cause troubles to e.g. a
blind person :
* The images need an alternate description. That's very easy : just adding
a few words in the ALT attribute of the IMG element. If the image has no
meaning - e.g. the spacer gifs - alt="" is the good solution.
* The structure of the page might be enhanced. Some persons navigate
thanks to the links or the headings of the web page. Thanks to them, they
have a fast idea of the content. For example, in your home page,
"Movie Player For Linux" could be the first heading (h1), and the
following paragraphs could be h2 headings.
* Finally, the menu relies on a DHTML solution. Good for the javascript
capable browsers and for people using mouse. Just adding the list of links
at the end of your page could ease navigation.
Gilles
PS
Do not see this email as a reproof... I was not aware of the web
accessibility just a few months ago.
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Re: Accessibility of the site
by A'rpi/ESP-team - Dec 9th 2002 04:24:02
We already have a new, cleaner, more usable homepage design ready for use.
We'll switch at time 0.90 final is released.
A'rpi
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Re: Accessibility of the site
by markus - Dec 9th 2002 15:28:52
I liked your old black/white homepage VERY much....do you have this files
somewhere? who was the author?
> We already have a new, cleaner, more
> usable homepage design ready for use.
> We'll switch at time 0.90 final is
> released.
>
> A'rpi
>
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Re: Accessibility of the site
by Maghnom - Feb 25th 2007 03:38:05
> Hi,
>
> I appreciate that your site allows
> several ways to download your
> softwares.
>
> I appreciate it because I can see...
>
> Let me please underlined three points
> which may cause troubles to e.g. a blind
> person :
>
> * The images need an alternate
> description. That's very easy : just
> adding a few words in the ALT attribute
> of the IMG element. If the image has no
> meaning - e.g. the spacer gifs -
> alt="" is the good solution.
>
> * The structure of the page might be
> enhanced. Some persons navigate thanks
> to the links or the headings of the web
> page. Thanks to them, they have a fast
> idea of the content. For example, in
> your home page, "Movie Player For
> Linux" could be the first heading
> (h1), and the following paragraphs could
> be h2 headings.
>
> * Finally, the menu relies on a DHTML
> solution. Good for the javascript
> capable browsers and for people using
> mouse. Just adding the list of links at
> the end of your page could ease
> navigation.
>
> Gilles
>
> PS
> Do not see this email as a reproof... I
> was not aware of the web accessibility
> just a few months ago.
Now it's so accessible and working properly.
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Re: Accessibility of the site
by Gilles Casse - Feb 25th 2007 13:03:58
> Now it's so accessible and working
> properly.
Glad to read this.
Just a note: the (numerous) links at the beginning of each HTML page can
clutter the reading. They could perhaps be moved to the end or easily
skipped using a "Go to content" link.
Thanks!
Gilles
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how to play .wax?!
by eiswein - Oct 3rd 2002 12:57:14
i met a file type which is .wax!
i though that mplayer can play it....cause i can play it with media
player~
but...it failed...
can anyone tell me how to do to support such file type?!
ps: i had win32.codec already
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MPlayer GUI
by Nizar K. - Sep 19th 2002 13:14:34
Is there any GUI for mplayer ?
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Re: MPlayer GUI
by A'rpi/ESP-team - Sep 22nd 2002 15:48:33
> Is there any GUI for mplayer ?
yes.
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Re: MPlayer GUI
by Nizar K. - Sep 27th 2002 12:26:24
>
> % Is there any GUI for mplayer ?
>
>
> yes.
>
Where can I find it ?????
Thanks
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Re: MPlayer GUI
by Eagle0 - Sep 27th 2002 18:47:29
> % % Is there any GUI for mplayer ?
> % yes.
> Where can I find it ?????
If you ./configure MPlayer with --enable-gui you will get a symbolic link
called gmplayer. This is the way to start the gui.
(You'll have to have skins and so on for it to work of course.. these can
be found on the site.)
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Re: MPlayer GUI
by Nizar K. - Oct 2nd 2002 09:50:49
Thank's,
but when configuring MPlayer with the --enamble-gui the make exit's with
an error message :-(
Must I place the skin's in a particular directory before making MPlayer ?
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Re: MPlayer GUI
by A'rpi/ESP-team - Oct 25th 2002 11:51:29
> Thank's,
> but when configuring MPlayer with the
> --enamble-gui the make exit's with an
> error message :-(
it shouldn't fail.
what's the error message?
read DOCS/bugreports.html
> Must I place the skin's in a particular
> directory before making MPlayer ?
>
no
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Re: MPlayer GUI
by biettuot - Jan 23rd 2004 09:38:18
>
> % Thank's,
> % but when configuring MPlayer with the
> % --enamble-gui the make exit's with an
> % error message :-(
>
> it shouldn't fail.
> what's the error message?
> read DOCS/bugreports.html
>
>
> % Must I place the skin's in a
> particular
> % directory before making MPlayer ?
> %
>
>
> no
>
hi, guys, here's the error message
Error: the GUI requires GTK (which was not found)
thanks for your guide.
--
oh, yeah
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Re: MPlayer GUI
by Agent - May 8th 2004 01:50:12
>
> % % % Is there any GUI for mplayer ?
> % % yes.
> % Where can I find it ?????
>
>
> If you ./configure MPlayer with
> --enable-gui you will get a symbolic
> link called gmplayer. This is the way to
> start the gui.
>
> (You'll have to have skins and so on for
> it to work of course.. these can be
> found on the site.)
>
Sweet i needed a copy too, thanks for the link m8.
--
Real Estate - Rentals
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mplayer vs gmplayer
by amevolley - Sep 6th 2002 14:24:35
today I successfully compiled and ran mplayer 090pre7.
I use it under Mandrake with a P3@500 and Asus NvidiaTNT video board.
Now I can't understand why I can use the DGA mode (that gives me the best
results) only with the command-line version:
# mplayer -vo dga -fs <file> is OK
but running gmplayer (also su logged) and then loading a file, results in
a "vo error" if I force the dga mode by editing the config
file.
Either,using "preferences" I couldn't find the "dga"
entry and I have to select the "x11" video output.
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Re: mplayer vs gmplayer
by Felix Buenemann - Sep 7th 2002 06:01:58
You can't use DGA with the GUI as it requires a
windowed-capable x11 output driver and DGA is fullscreen
only (besides it directly accesses graphicsmem, so even
displaying GUI in fullscreen wouldn't work).
You're really best/fastest of using Nvidia's binary drivers as
they support XVideo (-vo xv), with it gui will work fine and
it's even faster than DGA.
--
Best Regards,
Atmos
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Mplayer in Suse 8.0
by R00tB0Y - Jul 21st 2002 01:48:18
It's late, words are fuzzy an dnothing make sense anymore.....
Installing mplayer is my final attempt toward the goal of playing DVDs in
Suse Linux....
score... Suse 1 User 0
I compiled MPlayer v0.90pre5 source after installing numerous
dependancies along the way. Mounted a DVD, poped open a terminal, entered
gmplayer, it launched the gui with my selected skin (phony), I clicked on
the DVD button, this is the error I got....
===================== Sorry, this file format not
recognized/supported======================
============If this file is and AVI, ASF or MPEG stream, please contact
the author! =============
I have tried (unsuccessfully) to play DVDs using Ogle and Xine (we don't
even want to discuss Xine) and have yet to get anywhere near as close as
Mplayer has gotten.
If anyone has had any success getting Mplayer to play DVDs in Suse, please
post a reply, or even email me.
Thanks,
Now I think I'll pass out.
--
Succumb to natural tendancies... be hateful and boring.
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Re: Mplayer in Suse 8.0
by Felix Buenemann - Aug 14th 2002 20:29:23
First dvds aren't mounted but accesses in
raw-mode, so make sure you are member of group
"disk" so you are able to access the drive, then
you should try without gui: mplayer -dvd
where num is a dvd-title number, how many titles
are available is printed out to console by mplayer.
If a title doesn't play, it's most probably a
dvd-menue, that mplayer can't currently display.
If this doesn't help, read DOCS/bugreports.html
from mplayer's source dir or webpage.
--
Best Regards,
Atmos
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Re: Mplayer in Suse 8.0
by Small - Sep 14th 2002 14:40:39
I have Xine playing dvds albeit not that well my multi monitor drivers are
playing up. The standard Xine does not include DeCSS code so it cannot play
back encrypted dvds for the legal reasons involved with using this code.
just goto xine.sourceforge.net and get the latest version which includes
the d5d dvd plugins.
If you want more help with it mail me
--
Small
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Works well with TiVo mpeg2s
by Jeremy - Jun 29th 2002 13:02:37
While TiVo videos are stored in TY data files, they are usually converted
to mpeg2 for playing. While I've found many applications to convert the ty
files to mpeg2s, I have found few players that can handle the converted
files. This player is one of them. Hopefully mentioning TiVo in this
comment will help other people find this tool.
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Trouble with voodoo3
by tedturbo - Jun 7th 2002 03:24:25
I'd like to ask if you are noticed that voodoo3 doesn't work with dga.
I have tried it since summer 2001 either with mdk or with debian on 3
different system (kt133a && athlon, i440BX && p3, and
another on a my friend's pc) and we cannot get voodoo3 working neither with
mplayer -vo dga nor with "dga" utility came with X.
both generate only a blank screen.
Regards
TED
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Re: Trouble with voodoo3
by Felix Buenemann - Jun 21st 2002 20:05:30
> I'd like to ask if you are noticed that
> voodoo3 doesn't work with dga.
>
> I have tried it since summer 2001 either
> with mdk or with debian on 3 different
> system (kt133a && athlon, i440BX
> && p3, and another on a my
> friend's pc) and we cannot get voodoo3
> working neither with mplayer -vo dga nor
> with "dga" utility came with
> X.
>
> both generate only a blank screen.
As you already noted above, it is drivers problem,
so we can't do anything about it. However with
Voodoo 3 and recent XFree you can use XVideo or
even better use mplayer's native voodoo
3/banshee tdfxfb driver for best performance.
--
Best Regards,
Atmos
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can someone help me?
by eiswein - May 12th 2002 23:05:33
hmm~
i am using mandrake 8.2 gnome as desktop,
when i am using mplayer~
there are some mistakes....
when i use gui,no matter what type of file i play
the window will become green~
and i can't watch the movie....
then if i use the text mode...
sometimes it work perfectly,but most of the time
it encounter the same problem as gui.....
i am thinking whether the memory is exhasted,
but after i reboot,the problem is still exist...
can any body help me??
ps:my cpu is k6 2-400
ram:256 mb
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Re: can someone help me?
by A'rpi/ESP-team - May 13th 2002 18:37:59
read DOCS/bugreports.html
this info you provided is not enough to even imagine the possible
problems
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Re: can someone help me?
by eiswein - May 14th 2002 11:15:14
> read DOCS/bugreports.html
> this info you provided is not enough
> to even imagine the possible problems
>
hmm~
i found that sometimes when i am using gui it will pop out a warning
window says
your system is too slow to play this!try with -framedrop or RTFM!
and then i use the text mode with -framedrop or with RTFM
but....it seems useless.........
what really strange is that sometimes i can see movies with gui
properly...but most of the time...i will have problems..
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Re: can someone help me?
by A'rpi/ESP-team - May 24th 2002 07:00:20
hmm. this message was printed by a very old (0.60?) version... use CVS or
at least 0.90pre4
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Re: can someone help me?
by Krystian - May 20th 2002 05:24:38
I had similar problem and I found that it used wrong codec (OpenDivX
instead of DivX3.22). Try to override default codec with -vc option (best
are ffmpeg codecs), -vc help for list of available codecs.
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Wow...
by Mike Spiegle - May 11th 2002 02:58:17
I have a 450Mhz K62+ (or is it K63?). This shit (mplayer) is awesome! I
didnt think my laptop was capable of playing movies. My CPU is just barely
fast enough to watch the movies @ normal speeds. Nice works guys. The
only thing that ive noticed was when i run w/ -vo sdl and -ao sdl, the
video window isnt like... part of the skin or something. Kinda funky but
still the coolest media player ever. Oh, and im running this thing w/ a
super patched up gcc 2.97 (or whichever version it was that im not supposed
to use). Still kicks ass!
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Re: Wow...
by A'rpi/ESP-team - May 13th 2002 18:36:34
SDL's window can't be integrated with X11/GTK gui. It's fact, we can't do
anything with that.
Use x11/xv/xmga/xvidix output.
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Re: Wow...
by Mike Spiegle - May 20th 2002 11:37:20
> SDL's window can't be integrated with
> X11/GTK gui. It's fact, we can't do
> anything with that.
> Use x11/xv/xmga/xvidix output.
>
Oh, alright. I think x11 runs the best on my computer anyways. One thing
though, none of the other (better) ones like xv work. I have a Mach64 (i
think its called ATI Rage LT Pro), and im not sure if its supported with
any kind of acceleration. I have a fresh install of RedHat 7.3. Thanks
again for this awesome program. I check the site every day to see if a
new one came out.
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Re: Wow...
by A'rpi/ESP-team - May 24th 2002 07:02:35
you should read DOCS/video.html
there are xv and vidix support for mach64, just read how to enable
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Re: Wow...
by Mike Spiegle - Jul 19th 2003 16:09:45
Its all about that GATOS driver.
With the GATOS driver, My K63 475Mhz laptop is capable of playing SVCD
videos at full screen with perfect audio and smooth video. MPLAYER ROCKS
YOUR SOCKS!
> you should read DOCS/video.html
> there are xv and vidix support for
> mach64, just read how to enable
>
>
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This thing is _fast_
by Douglas77 - May 8th 2002 19:03:43
I can watch fullscreen DivX on my PII 270 with a ATI
Mach64.
Try this with Windows (or Xine, for that matter *eg*).
Thanks Arpi et al.!
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Problem Dxr3 sound
by laurentSa - Apr 15th 2002 04:54:09
Hello,
I have a DXR3 card and a AMD 900 cpu. Red Hat 7.2 with a gcc 2.95.X (don't
remenber, it's at home).
I've spent all the week end trying to let MPlayer work fine. It compile
without errors. My configure.log seems correct. I've read several times the
FAQs, the mplayer home page project, the Freshmeat mailing lists before
asking here.
There are things I dont't understand.
I've managed to let "the blair witch curse" DVD work, but not
"Matrix". With both of them, I never had the AC3 sound. As
anybody encoutered the same problem ?
I've managed to read a Divx movie correctly on my monitor. (Great
quality). But I'm asking myself :
is it possible to play a Divx (or a mpeg 1) and redirect the sound
(analogic sound I guess) on the AC3 output of the Dxr3 card via the em8300
device ?
From what I've seen, Mplayer looks great.
I'd like to let it run perfectly with my Dxr3 card.
Thanks in advance and keep on the good work guys.
PS : If this place isn't the right place to post this kind of message,
just don't flame me and tell me where to post.
Thank you all.
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MplayerXP
by tedturbo - Mar 20th 2002 15:08:37
Well.. if Nick assert that mplayerXP core is faster than mplayer's one, or
at least smoother, i think it would be nice to include both core in
mplayer, an let us to choose best one.
obviously reports for Nick's core will be turned to him
BYtE TED
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Re: MplayerXP
by A'rpi/ESP-team - May 6th 2002 15:24:07
Nick ack'ed that XP is not faster, just may be smoother with given
conditions on middle-speed systems.
Anyway the 2 core differs too lot - really hard/impossible to have them in
the same program, so we don't have such plans...
A'rpi
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Re: MplayerXP
by Nick Kurshev - May 13th 2002 01:51:50
> Nick ack'ed that XP is not faster, just
> may be smoother with given conditions on
> middle-speed systems.
> Anyway the 2 core differs too lot -
> really hard/impossible to have them in
> the same program, so we don't have such
> plans...
>
> A'rpi
>
The movies which I can't playback smoothly requires 26GHz system to be
played
smothly in single process decoding (1.5 sec delay on Duron-700). Maybe it
should be 5-14GHz with Athlon's cache. I guess that conslusion is not
required ;)
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MPlayer audio subsystem
by Sasquatch - Feb 23rd 2002 20:25:01
Has anyone thought of creating an audio player using the dll linker from
MPlayer (so that we can play WMA encoded files). Would there be additional
hurdles (like encryption)?
Not saying that .wma files are great, but it would complete support for
the big three of lossy audio (with ogg and mp3).
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Re: MPlayer audio subsystem
by A'rpi/ESP-team - Mar 22nd 2002 04:11:32
MPlayer CVS version can play .wma files, even from network via http or
mms://
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truly great software
by Konstantin Tsolov - Feb 20th 2002 04:42:53
this is one great, _really_fast_ player !
splendid job coders !
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really very good app
by kunnk - Jan 29th 2002 02:30:40
I also think, that compiling and installing MPlayer is not so hard at all.
Not much harder than any other linux app. Same thing: configure, make, make
install. Only copy manually codecs file to right place, this is not rocket
science or is it?
And documentation is very good. Actually, its MUCH better than usually
linux apps for desktop have.
thank you, MPlayer team!
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troubleshoot
by monkeyjiann - Jan 31st 2002 16:12:35
i get this error after make install and typing 'mplayer'
mplayer: error while loading shared librarires: cannot open shared object
file: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
please help
thx in advance
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Re: troubleshoot
by Gergely "PhOeMiX" Czuczy - Mar 22nd 2002 06:59:58
Maybe you haven't installed some codecs that mplayer depends on. But if
you haven't the configure script wouldn't be able to complete.
Please give an egzact description on the errors, not only part of the
error messages, the WHOLE error message, all the parameters of the
configure script, gcc version, distribution, and other important stuff.
And do not reply here, it's on the topic list of this forum, subscribe to
the mplayer mailing list.
Shall 42 be with you! :)
--
Gergely "PhOeMiX" Czuczy
mailto: phoemix@harmless.hu
web: http://phoemix.harmless.hu/
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Excellent app
by Sedennial - Jan 15th 2002 13:59:44
Despite various comments to the contrary, I found this app fairly easy to
install. I read through
the installation pages on the site, downloaded all the necessary tarballs
ahead of time, read the
readme and looked over the DOCS directory, installed the skins, codecs,
and did a make and
make install. Worked perfectly the first time and (not counting download
time) took me about 15
minutes to get up and running.
AWESOME job guys!
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not on with mandrake 8
by be - Jan 12th 2002 23:58:24
i have a generic mandrake 8/kde system and needed to download all the
dependencies (15Mb), then libdvdcss wouldnt compile it wanted gcc_s which
on rpmfind is another 15Mb download.
but still could not run ./configure which was complaining about lib
pthread missing.
/lib/libpthread-0.9.so installed. (doesnt rate a mention anywhere grepping
in the docs.)
so i changed the die statement in the configure script, thinking it just
didnt like all the parse errors in pthread.h, at least then ./configure
completed. then make, well a screenfull of cpp0 errors and it fails,
perhaps it doesnt like gcc-3.0.3 either.
i'm sure it works well on some systems, but gee its frustrating. after
mucking around for hours trying to get it to work, i think i'll try wine
& something else.
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Unfriendly
by wouter - Jan 5th 2002 12:19:21
I don't know what your problem is with the developers. From what I see in
this forum, is that A'rpi (/ESP-team) has been really nice handling all of
your insults. He (they) wasn't the one who was rude or insulting, it were
some of the users. In my opinion, he has been quite helpful. So I don't
understand your constant nagging about 'the mplayer developers this' and
'the mplayer developers that'. The guy tries to be nice and help you out,
so please, give him a break will ya.
As for mplayer, well, it's the best movieplayer I've used so far, it even
beats windows-mediaplayer by far for me. Keep up the good work!
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Re: Unfriendly
by Christian Rose - Jan 12th 2002 19:09:21
> I don't know what your problem is with
> the developers. From what I see in this
> forum, is that A'rpi (/ESP-team) has
> been really nice handling all of your
> insults. He (they) wasn't the one who
> was rude or insulting, it were some of
> the users. In my opinion, he has been
> quite helpful. So I don't understand
> your constant nagging about 'the mplayer
> developers this' and 'the mplayer
> developers that'. The guy tries to be
> nice and help you out, so please, give
> him a break will ya.
The problem is that they are insulting everyone, regardless if they asked
"stupid questions" on the mailing list or not. Go read their documentation
and especially the FAQ. Also, they seem to be happy about lying about
compiler bugs without being able to prove their claims (other than diffuse
statements like "some users said it didn't work", not any detailed proof of
why it would be a compiler bug), and accusing other people for problems
with what, to every nonbiased reader willing to do some investigation,
seems to problems with their own code. On top of that, they seem to be fond
of calling the people who point out that this is a problem with Mplayer
code for "liars"; again without any counterevidence. For those who aren't
annoyed by the first part, the second and the third part surely wins the
prize in arrogance and annoyance.
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About mplayer
by cre - Jan 3rd 2002 09:24:12
Another great leap for mankind!
Nothing more to say....
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come on people!
by Ender - Jan 2nd 2002 21:49:25
Look everyone, please stop trying to detract from this project simply
because you do not like the developers attitudes. They may be a bit
harsher than YOU would like, but that's their perogative. If they get
upset when people ask them the first question on the FAQ, again, that's
their perogative.
This is a FREE program, beer and source. They're not doing it for you,
YOU are not paying them! If they don't want to support you, well, tough.
If you think that sucks, why don't you create a support group for MPlayer
yourself.
Personally, I am absolutely thrilled that these developers have provided
us with such an excellent video player for Linux, especially one that is so
Unix-friendly. It has a great command line interface and can easily be
controlled with just the keyboard. It also has a nice looking GUI in the
works, for those who are GUI-ally inclined.
To the developers, thank you, thank you very much.
--
"Self improvement is masturbation" - Tyler Durden
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Stupid rant
by Lepus - Dec 29th 2001 06:14:05
Well, the player IS the best available for Linux, I am sure of that after
trying a wagonload of others. Well, actually it's the single usable DVD
player for Linux in my opinion - OMS and XINE simply sucks. :)
So people, don't be intimidated by some overblown faces in the devel
team... :) I know it's simple human response to throw shit on the work of
people whose style offends one, but bear in mind that this IS free
software, the developers won't feel worse if you don't use mplayer - only
you will when unable to play some files correctly under Linux. :)
So even if you hate the devel team, use the soft, because it kicks ass!
:)
ps.: Sorry, ESP-team, but Gabucino's style IS a major negative marketing
element... :)
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Re: Stupid rant
by Frédéric L. W. Meunier - Dec 29th 2001 06:53:34
Not trying to start another rant, but you mentioned it's Free Software.
"Other/Proprietary License with Source" isn't.
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Re: Stupid rant
by Lepus - Dec 29th 2001 08:18:40
> Not trying to start another rant, but
> you mentioned it's Free Software.
> "Other/Proprietary License with Source"
> isn't.
Well, there ARE legal problems around Mplayer - as would be with
practically anything that can play so many (probably protected) formats.
(The problem here is, Mplayer may not be distributed as a binary. But then
again, Pine has this limit also.)
But as for me, I don't define "free software" as "software
under GPL". Pine IS free software in my opinion, and so is Mplayer.
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Re: Stupid rant
by Yves Mettier - Dec 29th 2001 19:40:50
>
> % Not trying to start another rant,
> but
> % you mentioned it's Free Software.
> % "Other/Proprietary License with
> Source"
> % isn't.
>
>
> Well, there ARE legal problems around
> Mplayer - as would be with practically
> anything that can play so many (probably
> protected) formats. (The problem here
> is, Mplayer may not be distributed as a
> binary. But then again, Pine has this
> limit also.)
> But as for me, I don't define
> "free software" as
> "software under GPL". Pine IS
> free software in my opinion, and so is
> Mplayer.
Pine is NOT free: you are not allowed to redistribute patches over the
official version without their agreement. Pine is just open source.
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Re: Stupid rant
by A'rpi/ESP-team - Dec 31st 2001 21:49:23
>
> Pine is NOT free: you are not allowed
> to redistribute patches over the
> official version without their
> agreement. Pine is just open source.
>
MPlayer has no such limitations. The only limitation is distributing in
binary form. And we have both legal and technical reasons, and we're
working on both problem solution. You can expect v1.0 as fully GPL program
(with independent optional non-gpl plugins)
Anyway, as someone stated above, it is NOT possible to make fully GPL
program, as most of today media formats and codecs have special license,
and some of them aren't public at all, we're using reverse engineering, or
other tricks.
Both me, and mplayer users think it's free program, not only opensource. I
haven't seen free == GPL definition yet, and can't imagine it. Even
freeware (but closedsource) programs are free.
Or is 'free software' trademarked by R. Stallman?
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Re: Stupid rant
by Christian Rose - Jan 12th 2002 18:23:33
Using reverse engineering as such isn't illegal, a lot of free software
wouldn't have been possible without reverse engineering. You certainly can
use reverse engineering for producing free software.
Patented software methods is another issue. Many newer codecs use patented
methods (Sorenson for example), and producing support for these codecs
without infringing on these patents is usually impossible, since they are
so tightly related to the algorithm and design of the codec. But I assume
you know all this already, and what you said was just an accidental error.
Regarding the term "free software". No, it's not trademarked. But in the
free software world, whether you agree with RMS or not, "free" usually
refers to "freedom" and not as in "no cost". Even BSD supporters agree. By
stating "freeware is free software", you are showing that you are terribly
unfamiliar with everything regarding free software.
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Re: Stupid rant
by A'rpi/ESP-team - Dec 31st 2001 22:14:45
> ps.: Sorry, ESP-team, but Gabucino's
> style IS a major negative marketing
> element... :)
I don't know what's your problem with Gabu's style, or with mine, or other
developers. The main problem is with the USERS. The users, or rather
lusers, who are unable to read documentation, or at least the messages
printed by the program, and are unable to send proper bugreports or mails,
just say "Help me! This shit doesn't work at all!". And >95%
of them are such people. And we're tired/bored answering all of them in
polite style. Sometimes we gets angry.
Yes, I know you expect long, polite, descriptive answer for your mails,
but you have a single mail sent, while we have to answer 200-300 mails
daily. It's too lot, especially when most of them are simply silly and
useless, meaningless messages. Decide, do you want unpolite answer or
rather nothing?
Hey, if you ever read the docs, and sent proper questions/bugreports, I'm
sure you got proper answer. We aren't angry to people keeping the rules.
But they are rare.
I read about 10 proper mails a week. And 1000 meaningless or RTFM
questions at the same period. 1:100, right?
If you don't like this, hey, come on, help us in helpdesk/support stuff.
Unfortunatelly nobody wants to do that, and we're too geek for this
job.
We wrote the docs. Of course it could be better, but we can't do it
better. If you can, do it. It contains 99% of informations asked by users.
And we usually answer properly that remaining 1% of questions, and add it
to docs to avoid the question again.
For example. If someone buy a video recorder, he won't call the
manufacturer and ask how to power on it. He will read the manual. We just
expect the same for our player.
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Re: Stupid rant
by Lepus - Jan 1st 2002 09:22:40
> I don't know what's your problem with
> Gabu's style, or with mine, or other
> developers. The main problem is with the
> USERS. The users, or rather lusers, who
> are unable to read documentation, or at
> least the messages printed by the
> program, and are unable to send proper
> bugreports or mails, just say "Help
> me! This shit doesn't work at
> all!". And >95% of them are such
> people. And we're tired/bored answering
> all of them in polite style. Sometimes
> we gets angry.
>
> Yes, I know you expect long, polite,
> descriptive answer for your mails, but
> you have a single mail sent, while we
> have to answer 200-300 mails daily. It's
> too lot, especially when most of them
> are simply silly and useless,
> meaningless messages. Decide, do you
> want unpolite answer or rather
> nothing?
>
> Hey, if you ever read the docs, and
> sent proper questions/bugreports, I'm
> sure you got proper answer. We aren't
> angry to people keeping the rules. But
> they are rare.
> I read about 10 proper mails a week.
> And 1000 meaningless or RTFM questions
> at the same period. 1:100, right?
>
> If you don't like this, hey, come on,
> help us in helpdesk/support stuff.
> Unfortunatelly nobody wants to do that,
> and we're too geek for this job.
>
> We wrote the docs. Of course it could
> be better, but we can't do it better. If
> you can, do it. It contains 99% of
> informations asked by users. And we
> usually answer properly that remaining
> 1% of questions, and add it to docs to
> avoid the question again.
>
> For example. If someone buy a video
> recorder, he won't call the manufacturer
> and ask how to power on it. He will read
> the manual. We just expect the same for
> our player.
You are perfectly right, I am also angered about the stupidity some
"lusers" can exhibit at times - and then blame the software for
their incompetence.
The only problem is that nobody likes to be treated like maggots when
asking for help.
Just think about it... "Your question is already answered in the
Codecs section of the manual" sounds much much better than "RTFM,
Bloody lamer." - and is not that much effort. As for Gabucino, I have
nothing against him, just I have already heard from some people that they
won't use mplayer BECAUSE of the ego and rudeness he exhibits on some
hungarian IRC channels.
I'm not so sensitive, this is just a piece of advice - or warning. :)
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by Christian Rose - Jan 12th 2002 18:40:23
> I don't know what's your problem with
> Gabu's style, or with mine, or other
> developers. The main problem is with the
> USERS. The users, or rather lusers, who
> are unable to read documentation, or at
> least the messages printed by the
> program, and are unable to send proper
> bugreports or mails
Let me help you get a clue regarding users. Yes, some users don't read
manuals and want unreasonable amounts of help. That is true. Also, it is
normal to get angry and upset sometimes on users that cannot follow
"simple" instructions.
BUT... it is an entirely different matter to always yell at them or
insult them. There is no need to insult a person when pointing out that the
information is already available somewhere. Most people usually learn to
control their behavior and angryness and even if they are angry, they learn
to take a few deep breaths and later reply in a professional way, or even
politely, or wait till the next day with replying, when they have calmed
down a bit. Always insulting people and claiming they are stupid is, unless
you really are under the age of 15, just really childish behavior.
It is also an entirely different matter to spread the insults from the
mailing list answers to the documentation. Insulting in mailing list
answers is bad as it is, but insulting the readers of the documentation on
the web page or in the tarball is a hundred times worse. Now you are not
only insulting the people that may have answered "stupid" questions, now
you are insulting every single visitor that happens to read the
documentation.
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by Sardy - May 6th 2002 04:48:49
>
> % I don't know what's your problem
> with
> % Gabu's style, or with mine, or
> other
> % developers. The main problem is with
> the
> % USERS. The users, or rather lusers,
> who
> % are unable to read documentation, or
> at
> % least the messages printed by the
> % program, and are unable to send
> proper
> % bugreports or mails
>
>
> Let me help you get a clue regarding
> users. Yes, some users don't read
> manuals and want unreasonable amounts of
> help. That is true. Also, it is normal
> to get angry and upset sometimes on
> users that cannot follow "simple"
> instructions.
>
> BUT... it is an entirely different
> matter to always yell at them or insult
> them. There is no need to insult a
> person when pointing out that the
> information is already available
> somewhere. Most people usually learn to
> control their behavior and angryness and
> even if they are angry, they learn to
> take a few deep breaths and later reply
> in a professional way, or even politely,
> or wait till the next day with replying,
> when they have calmed down a bit. Always
> insulting people and claiming they are
> stupid is, unless you really are under
> the age of 15, just really childish
> behavior.
>
> It is also an entirely different
> matter to spread the insults from the
> mailing list answers to the
> documentation. Insulting in mailing list
> answers is bad as it is, but insulting
> the readers of the documentation on the
> web page or in the tarball is a hundred
> times worse. Now you are not only
> insulting the people that may have
> answered "stupid" questions, now you are
> insulting every single visitor that
> happens to read the documentation.
Let me add something. I think I know the root of the problem here. It is
_cultural difference_. You do not understand why they are so rude, and they
do not understand why you think they are rude, when they are just normal.
Obviously, these guys are brilliant coders, but they do not have a good
command of English. They just seem to be translating everything they would
say in Hungarian word by word. But if you compare English and Hungarian,
you will find that every day Hungarian is much more direct, or impolite if
you like. Ask native English speakers teaching in Hungary, and I bet they
will confirm.
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Re: Stupid rant
by Christian Rose - May 6th 2002 07:40:17
> Let me add something. I think I know
> the root of the problem here. It is
> _cultural difference_. You do not
> understand why they are so rude, and
> they do not understand why you think
> they are rude, when they are just
> normal. Obviously, these guys are
> brilliant coders |
